- VwfoolParticipantOctober 11, 2017 at 11:40 pmPost count: 266
So after researching these odd little buggies I have found that most were done prior to IRS and some had bus reduction box trans in them. While I was out picking up the car in Washington I found a guy with a stripped, gutted, pan halves removed, backbone of a pan from a ’61 bug with the original bug body tag and matching title. So I drug it home too. The reason being this thing is mounted on a shortened ’71 pan which mean I would never fit in it. These bodies are crazy how everything either rivets or bolts together, no welds. So all I have to do is unbolt the rocker panels, set the front and rear halves of the body on the new pan and make a new longer rocker that bolts in. Instant leg room.
So I figure I will put the word out. I am looking for whatever adapters they used back in the day to mount a bus reduction box trans in a bug torsion housing. I know there are Johnson no hop kits that were made but I am having limited luck finding any. I am sure creative old school off road guys made something. Franz you always seem to have weird quirky crap laying around or know where to find it. Got anything?
This is my inspiration of what I hope to do with mine minus the rake, I want it to sit levelJohn JonesKeymasterOctober 12, 2017 at 6:35 amPost count: 6124
we have a set of those I think.. 😉John JonesKeymasterOctober 12, 2017 at 6:36 amPost count: 6124
the biggest guy I know.. and he likes the smallest fucking cars.. He even makes em smaller from time to time..VwfoolParticipantOctober 14, 2017 at 8:03 amPost count: 266
John, you say you might have some of those Johnson no hops laying around?John JonesKeymasterOctober 14, 2017 at 8:16 amPost count: 6124
I think there is one over in the clean shop… Franz called it the “Lay back” kit..FranzKeymasterOctober 14, 2017 at 8:44 amPost count: 3217
Rusty has a no hop kit that he got with a transaxle a few weeks ago.
The sportster I had used some thick plates to adapt to the reduction boxes. It handled terrible. Acceleration would lift the rear suspension. Bad deal for spirited driving.
Also, from the little I know about sportsters. Is that most of them were home built from plans, so there are many variations of material and construction techniques. I think empi provided a couple hard to make parts like the nose and windshield frame.
The one I had was fully welded on a 57 pan.
Supposedly empi had some turn-key cars that they sold too. I think those are super rare. Like only a handful.VwfoolParticipantOctober 14, 2017 at 10:32 amPost count: 266
Yeah I have been researching these Sportsters. Pretty interesting cars overall and so many variations from the plans. I actually got a set of plans with mine.
In my research the no hop kit helps (but doesn’t completely rid it) keep things from jumping up on hard acceleration. I am not an off-road Kamikaze. Just want low gearing and ground clearance. I have thousands of my miles of forest roads right behind my house to explore, some maintained some not with lots of creeks to cross. Plus the coastal sand dunes are 40 minutes south of my house.
I am also probably just going to run one of the two single port motors it came with.
Rusty, if you’re not wanting to keep your no hop kit let me knowJohn JonesKeymasterOctober 15, 2017 at 8:46 amPost count: 6124
Rusty isn’t gonna take that tranny apart to save those pieces for you…. His plans are to cut them off with a cut off wheel… 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
I think you would have a BLAST out in the woods with this rig.. I would LOVE to join in with my baja!!!!!
I wouldn’t get “set” on the no hop or reduc’s.. I want you to get it together, solid and mechanically sound so you can enjoy it!!! Keep it light….. Keep it simple.. reducs rob power also… keep that in mind.VwfoolParticipantOctober 16, 2017 at 8:18 amPost count: 266
Still on the fence as to what direction I will go with the buggy. I still like the idea of link pin and reduction boxes on the full length ’61 pan. I am picking up a drum to drum link pin this afternoon from a local guy who is throwing in a full length IRS pan with rear arms and brakes for $50. Couldn’t pass that up.
Rusty if you decide to not butcher the no hop let me know.AndymParticipantOctober 18, 2017 at 8:03 amPost count: 910
Just go irs, you can lift it or lower it without axle issues. Easy to change axles too.
Do somethingVwfoolParticipantOctober 19, 2017 at 7:49 amPost count: 266
It is still an option. I honestly have nearly no knowledge of IRS stuff. Not sure if I can raise it much over stock without dropping money on bigger arms, 930 CVs etc. low budget is the goal here. Figured I could find this no hop crap fairly cheap since everyone who is into off-road has gone to IRS, and bigger, better things.RustabusParticipantOctober 19, 2017 at 8:18 amPost count: 1812
You can have the No Hop stuff of my tranny if you want it, you just gotta take it off!! 😀VwfoolParticipantOctober 19, 2017 at 1:52 pmPost count: 266
I will take it. I just got to figure out when I can get out there. Got any pictures of it you can post? Curious what version you have.AndymParticipantOctober 22, 2017 at 3:06 pmPost count: 910
I’m ready for that short bus Scott!! 100% useless, but something new and fresh. It’s more than likely gonna say air cooled, no room for extra crap on that bus. Just a nice clean 1600 is all it needs.
Do somethingVwfoolParticipantOctober 22, 2017 at 11:22 pmPost count: 266
I have been saving my vacation time so I can make the trip down to haul that big bitch home once you are done molesting it.
And dinner will be on me so we can harass Monica.VwfoolParticipantNovember 23, 2017 at 11:24 pmPost count: 266
So it looks like it has been a month since my last post, damn time flies.
Been working on the double door panel some more. I mounted Big Ben’s old KCW built lifted beam in my bus and got it adjusted over the last week. The bus is sitting where I want it so now I am going to focus on doing brakes. No pictures cause it is pouring rain right now.
I also realized I forgot to post pictures of another one of my dumb spur of the moment purchases. I bought this about a month ago cause it was cheap and close to my house, so why not. Plus I always wondered if I would fit in one for shits and giggles.
And yes, I fit. Well once I unbolted the seat and relocated it back a bit, see the mounting stud on what is left of the floor. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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