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  • Volksman
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    I finally got my 63 running. However it’s got some issues. I bought a rebuild kit for the stock carb which is a solex 28 pict 1. It’s running rough and has a hard time starting. It’s quite possible I did something wrong on the rebuild. I’ve tried adjusting it but to be honest I’m not certain how to really go about it correctly. So what should I do? Pull the carb and try again or look to getting a different one? The engine is the stock 1200 40 horse.  It’s there an alternate carb I can use?  When I accelerate it really bogs down and doesn’t accelerate very well, nor does it really have any power (even for a 1200 ?). Maybe I need to mail it to you guys for a correct rebuild. ?

    Franz
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    Sorry for not responding sooner. Are you sure the problem is the carb? The biggest problem I see with old carbs is worn-out throttle shaft/bore. After years of use the bore becomes oval shape, and allow the engine to suck air through the gap. It doesn’t take much to cause a problem. I assume your car is still 6 volt? Which means that you have to repair an original carb rather than buying a new replacement. There is a guy on samba who offers a bushing repair/replacement service.

    Franz
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    After you run the engine for a minute, turn it off.  Then look down the carb to see if it is dripping gas? That would indicate a float, valve, or fuel pressure issue.

    JWDII
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    I think this may be who Franz is talking about, if not I can tell you he does great work.

    Tim@

    Volkzbitz.com

    http://www.volkzbitz.com

    edit and added the link to his website.

     

    I had him rebuild and rebush the 28 pict I had on my 48. It was leaking fuel out of the throttle shaft on the first engine start. He did an awesome job, 3 year warranty and a quick turn around. I will post before and after pics tomorrow if I remember. I had him replate all my hardware in black and the carb looks great.

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    Volksman
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    Thanks for the help you guys. I messed with it again today, but no such luck. The throttle shaft doesn’t seem loose but I could be mistaken. I may just send it to that guy you suggested and get it rebuilt.

    JWDII
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    BEFORE

    AFTER

    hope to get it installed soon and it work as good as it looks! 🙂

    Franz
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    Your issue may be something else. Its hard to say over the internet.

    If your carb isn’t dumping raw fuel down the venturi, then I would probably look at other stuff.

    Volksman
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    That carb looks amazing!  I went ahead and sent it to Tim @ Volksbiz today. Either way I think it needed a good once-over. The ceramic choke has a decent crack with a piece missing from the side. I don’t think I cleaned all the channels or lines in the carb as well as I needed to. This thing sat from 1984 until 2014 when I bought it. The carb had a lot of dried up crap in it.

    I am sure you are right Franz and it could very well be other issues as well. I don’t know if the vacuum advance distributor is working correctly either. I checked the points (gap was right and they didn’t seem too worn or pitted). I just thought maybe getting the carb done correctly would at least eliminate that as the problem. Then after getting it back I will see where I am. I wish I was closer to KCW I would love to be a Parkway Project. Then I know it would be dialed in and running right. 🙂 For now I will just have to do my best to play mechanic and look for help from more knowledgeable people such as the fine folks on these forums.  I am going to get this thing at least running so I can start driving it. I will post pictures once I get the carb back from Volksbiz.

    John Jones
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    KCW isn’t too far to bring your car.. You shipped a carb.. You can ship cars too…  Or even better.. tow bar it or something over here….  I haven’t had anyone say it was not worth the drive to get their VW worked on at KCW… 😉  😉  😉

    JWDII
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    KCW isn’t too far to bring your car.. You shipped a carb.. You can ship cars too… Or even better.. tow bar it or something over here…. I haven’t had anyone say it was not worth the drive to get their VW worked on at KCW… ? ? ?

    That is encouraging to here you say Mr. Jones. All this talk of you not wanting anymore work has been putting a damper on my dreams of someday being KCW family. :mrgreen:

    To volksman. He ain’t lying and you know what he says is true or you wouldn’t be on this forum. Just in case though, Browse a couple of the build threads or parkway projects and you will see his point proven repeatedly!! 😀

    Jdawg
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    KCW isn’t too far to bring your car.. You shipped a carb.. You can ship cars too… Or even better.. tow bar it or something over here…. I haven’t had anyone say it was not worth the drive to get their VW worked on at KCW… ? ? ?

    It was worth everything I had to do to get my car there…I’d do it again in a heartbeat!

    Volksman
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    Trust me John I plan to get this car to you. I’ve followed your site for around 10 years or so I believe. I’ve shown a lot of people the current and completed build galleries over the years. After finally meeting you and Gretchen at the salt lake show I was even more anxious to get this car in your shop. You guys were so down to earth and fun to talk to ! My son loved hanging with the shop dogs And told me after that it was his favorite part of being there. I too am anxious to become part of the kcw family. ?

    Once I get my carb back I’ll get a trip to kcw planned.

    John Jones
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    Trust me John I plan to get this car to you. I’ve followed your site for around 10 years or so I believe. I’ve shown a lot of people the current and completed build galleries over the years. After finally meeting you and Gretchen at the salt lake show I was even more anxious to get this car in your shop. You guys were so down to earth and fun to talk to ! My son loved hanging with the shop dogs And told me after that it was his favorite part of being there. I too am anxious to become part of the kcw family. ? Once I get my carb back I’ll get a trip to kcw planned.

     

    Sweet!!!!  I am glad we got to meet also….   We try to keep it real and keep it down to earth…. Nothing fake, nothing to hide, no magic, just honest people doing what we have been doing for most our lives……  😉  😉  😉

    Anonymous
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    Thanks for sharing this information! However, the problem lies in something different, to my mind.

    John Jones
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    Yo Billy…  Welcome. 😉

    Volksman
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    I got the carb back on Friday from Tim @ Volkzbitz. He did an outstanding job on rebuilding the carb:

     

    I installed in on Saturday and it did make quite a difference. The bug started up easily after getting fuel to the carb and then seemed to run much smoother. However, this is not the only issue. I was able to drive the car but it really had no decent power or acceleration. When I rev the engine up it feels like it is bogging out at the top. I kind of figured something else would be an issue as I mentioned above so now I think I need to look at the points and timing. I had checked the points previously as I also mentioned above but I haven’t messed with the timing. A friend suggested getting an electronic points kit to put in the distributor. I have no idea if that is a good idea or not. What do you guys think? Bear in mind this is a stock 40hp 6volt car.

    I guess I  need to get my towbar out and haul this think over to KCW. I just need to convince my wife that it is absolutely necessary. 🙂

     

     

    Franz
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    Torque the heads & adjust valves?

    Maybe run a compression test.

    I would keep the points system.

     

    But yeah, haul it over here if you want. I’ll work on it.

    Jdawg
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    Well I don’t know much but I had a pointless ignition in my car when I dropped it off at KCW, Franz found that it was malfunctioning and it has points again…I had other ailments causing my “runs like shit” issue but that was one of the big ones. If I was you, I would take the car to KCW regardless of what the wife says…its easier to ask for forgiveness then deal with a VW that runs like shit!  😛  BTW the carb looks awesome.

    Volksman
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    Thanks for the fast replies! I did adjust the valves prior to firing up the engine so I think they are ok. I did not check the torque on the heads or the compression. Out of curiosity Franz – what is the labor rate for mechanical work? It would probably be a lot better overall for me to just bring this to you and have you fix all the weird performance  issues. I expected stuff like this since the car sat for so long before I got it. I just wish I had the knowledge to make it work right.

     

    Yeah JDawg I have done the ask forgiveness thing before. In fact when I got this bug I had to pull the trigger super fast because the guy was waffling on selling it to me. So…on my daughter’s birthday I had to slip out with a buddy and a car hauler and then come back. She was a little bit unhappy with me. 🙂 But I didn’t want to miss out on getting the car.

    JWDII
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    Carb looks great man, Sorry to here that wasn’t the cure all! Glad to see Tim did a good job! Like others said I would just haul it to KCW. I would be there already if it wasn’t 1800 miles one way. It requires a little more planning for me!

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