- Brian EParticipantOctober 13, 2020 at 12:20 pmPost count: 43
It’s not new info. It has been around, and it has been proven to work.
John has had some bad luck with his engine combo’s, and I have built and tested a few of what I feel is a super solid heavy bus engine combo. I just thought I would offer my suggestion of what I know will work, and has been working quite well for a long time in different buses. 50k miles in 4 summers on a 6500lbs double decker bus is not an easy on any engine, but this combo has survived with no major issues.
Always wanting to learn more, I would like to hear about your tall Vs. short deck height testing and thoughts. 🙂sledParticipantOctober 13, 2020 at 12:34 pmPost count: 17
just want to apologize John, for clogging up your thread!
maybe we’ll all meet some day and have a beer! (or a few) 😀 …until then ill see y’all on down the road.DarioParticipantOctober 13, 2020 at 1:38 pmPost count: 547John JonesKeymasterOctober 13, 2020 at 3:49 pmPost count: 7102
I had a good post and fucking lost it and am too high to retype it now…. 😎 Short version
Sled, love the posts! Please don’t stop! 😎 ACTIVITY is good… 😎
Brian, I am drinking the koolaid man.. but… not sold on the deck… I guess I better just do the math!!!
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“Get a picture of me doing some math”Brian EParticipantOctober 13, 2020 at 5:18 pmPost count: 43
Good to hear the Kool-aid is getting passed around. 😆 😉
Here is what I would do.
New aluminum case
84mm VW journal crank
New AA THICK WALL 92mm P&C’s
web218 advanced 2deg.
CB Panchitos, with the 61cc chamber option, and dual springs.
CB magnaspark dist kit.
Using the CB online compression calculator that means you will need a .052″ deck height. Not super ideal, but at least it isn’t .152″. If you wanted to get slightly tricky, just turn a small 2cc dish in the piston tops on the lathe, and dial the deck down to .040″. I do this on lots of engines. Closer to .045″ the better for anti-pinging, crisp throttle response, lower head temps, and easier tuning.
You will have a 2234cc with the thickest toughest cylinders available. Off the shelf awesome coolest running heads available, the compression is matched to the cam, and your elevation. You will need 91 gas when you get down to sea level, but it is worth the extra $3/tank, and the 91 is usually the stuff without ethanol. Run it a 28deg. fully advanced. This would be a twin to the giant limo bus engine I built. Keep your big oil cooler, and make sure the engine is assembled correctly. Correct bearing clearances make a huge difference in oil pressure. NO high pressure chrome relief valve springs, and no giant 30mm oil pumps needed!!!!
Remember….low compression doesn’t equal cooler running. 😉
Now have another sip……. 😉 😉 😉
BrianJohn JonesKeymasterOctober 13, 2020 at 5:57 pmPost count: 7102
Looks like with 61cc heads and the smaller cc engine helps a bunch also… .045 deck with 61cc heads and 2234 come out to 9:1 Brian, your right.. I get hung up on my 2332… and 61 is a big head cc… I am drinking the koolaid.. I think I will call Tiger and see about a complete 5/8 system.. I hope I can still get away with good heat building boxes under my heads.. and I will ask for the web cam and big cc heads… I guess I should ask for Panchito’s… 😎John JonesKeymasterOctober 14, 2020 at 6:59 amPost count: 7102
Gonna call painters this morning, And probably tiger also..😂Brian EParticipantOctober 14, 2020 at 8:49 amPost count: 43
Make sure they are real Panchito’s with the CNC chamber option, and dual springs. Not some off the shelf big valve head with a semi-hemi cut chamber. I would also recommend CB lightweight lifters with the Web cam.John JonesKeymasterOctober 21, 2020 at 5:27 pmPost count: 7102
So I finally talked to the guys at Painters… Mag case.. 8mm studs..
The web cam… They said they wear out lifter bores…?????. 😎 😎 😎 We will try to reuse my engle 110. We will see what Ross thinks about my lifters I used the dremel on them to cut them three slots berg style???? 😎 😎 😎
Heads… I am gonna go hemi cut, cause thats the only way on earth to get 61 or 62 cc heads….. Big valve.. I am not convinved on the Pinchito revolution. and 8.5 compression. with a tight deck!!!! 😎 😎 8) 😎
Cylinders… thick walled 92’s…. with Mahle piston’s…
84 crank, old one, stock flywheel, clutch etc… heavy pully, balanced… 😎 45 dells.. I guess I should get a 1/5/8 exhaust and heaterboxes, empty ofcourse, and a webasto!!!!!!! 😎 😎John JonesKeymasterOctober 24, 2020 at 7:48 amPost count: 7102
My dually has been needing some love for months… but I been so busy driving busses and having fun… 😎 There is nothing like driving a bus. nothing.
Weston swapped my front rims out for me, and changed my oil and helped me find my gas leak!!! I had atleast one injector leaking.. WHY? Cause there are some tabs broken on the fuel rail that hold the injectors straight and keep em from leaking… The whole right side is broke… and guess what… this fuel rail and clips.. No Longer Available! I see the last hands in there used some zip ties that worked great for a bunch of years… I am going to redo it and add a few….. 😎 Get this big bad bitch driving around again!!!!! 😎 Maybe I should drive this to Texas? 😎John JonesKeymasterOctober 25, 2020 at 11:26 amPost count: 7102
This has been a really good week for me. Back to working 8 hours a day without any real pains… and I worked on my shit all weekend so far… 😎 Fun shit… and with minimal Will and Glenn bothering me… cause them dumb asses got so drunk Friday, Saturday was almost a waste.. 😎 😎 😎 It’s tough being 24 years old.. 😎
Dually is mechanically dialed in again… SWEET!!!! Love my truck!!! I enjoyed seeing a few lowered dually’s out at Octo!!! 😎 It’s NOT just me… 😎 Slammed dually’s are sick… 😎 I zip tied that shit doubled em up and put it all back together like it was.. Fired right up, runs perfect, NOT leaking gas…. 😎 😎 😎John JonesKeymasterOctober 25, 2020 at 11:30 amPost count: 7102
Now I am working on the kombi… we beat her up in Cali!! I think I found that weird sound I couldn’t pin point… exhaust cracked AGAIN… Looks like it already has been fixed, and with thicker angle.. I think it needs a larger foot print!!! I have done this like 3 times on the pamper too… 😎 😎 Only way you can crack that is by actually driving your shit.. 😎 Dropping all fluids and checking valves.. Look how good that engine bay looks after a big trip like that.. 😎
Kombi should be dialed for action again today!!! Time to start working on the pamper!!!!!!JbParticipantOctober 25, 2020 at 4:29 pmPost count: 639
My muffler cracked there too, had to weld up the bottom cause I drag it all over place too😂John JonesKeymasterOctober 26, 2020 at 7:54 amPost count: 7102
My muffler cracked there too, had to weld up the bottom cause I drag it all over place too😂
hahahhahahhahaha….. I used one inch by 1/8 strap and wrapped that bitch ALL the way around it like a clamp!! No more breaking…. 😎
Plowed some snow in the dually last night… love having my truck fixed again!! the heat fucking ROCKS in that rig…. 😎 It actually drives great in the snow…. big block up front, and 26 gallon fuel cell behind my rear axle!!!! 😎 Who knew my body dropped semi wheel truck would be my favorite winter cruiser… Most of them guys put them away for the winter…. 😎
Awesome weekend hanging out at the shop!! Been a year since I could work.. and been about 10 years since I could work without pain…. Thanks Doc!!!! My back is doing so damn good… 😎WAY2COOLParticipantOctober 26, 2020 at 4:47 pmPost count: 236
Great news John
Test Pilot @ Submarine AirwaysJohn JonesKeymasterOctober 31, 2020 at 11:43 amPost count: 7102
So… after I get my last youth Dude Ranch KCW experience done in few weeks… I plan on working on my truck next.. Although.. the Pamper motor being done would trump most everything.. Maybe even helping my Youths… 😎 😎 😎
I want to complete the big rig look on the front of my truck with a Visor… 😎 can’t decide which one… leaning towards low in the middle and going up to the outside..but not set yet… Wondering if I should just buy one and modify it.. or fab it all…..
😎 Yup… gonna look sick on my truck!!! I am thinking polished stainless or aluminum?John JonesKeymasterOctober 31, 2020 at 5:15 pmPost count: 7102
these 22’s rub on my A arms when I turn… but they re DAMN good SPARES!!!! 😎 Talk about back spacing!! This truck, when they put on the semi wheels.. they went to a 3/4 ton hub to pull the tire in… then made the arms longer for more lift…. 😎 Everything has been modified to make it work right… You gotta have mad lift to be able to drive with the 24″ wheels…. 😎 My driver dually… 😎 Work truck…hahahaha
Driver…. Them Phone dials are dirty!!!
Can’t get like that in the garage… 😎type4revolutionParticipantOctober 31, 2020 at 7:49 pmPost count: 15
Ditch the heavy heater boxes and use the Autonomous cabin diesel air heater Eberspacher Airtronic D4 12V with installation kit and digital controller Easy Start Select
8 hours on less than a gallon of fuel . Alternative heat is key.. Add an extra battery and battery isolator for the max output. Stay well glad your getting better and moving around take care.
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