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  • John Jones
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    John Jones
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    extra work for sure…. but cool…. 😎 We call that factory two tone crisp… 😎  (like factory, but not overspray)

    and then one shiney color…  over done by most standards.. I guess both of them are!!!

     

     

    Yber
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    Thanks for the pics – really helped me understand.

    Yeah – I think the “factory two-tone crisp” is the way to go.  (Sorry about the extra taping work.)

    Is the primer as durable as the color paint?  That’s my only concern…

    Seems like doing the total bottom in color comes under the heading of “over-restored”…

    mdubg
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    My Double is a special case, because it’s grey, but I do appreciate the full bottom paint for an extra layer of protection and an easy wipe-down when I’m under there.  That said, either way, the only time someone would see the bottom side is if you lay a mirror down there.  Just my 2 pennies.

    BTW.  Your bus looks great and is only going to get better!

    Yber
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    Thanks for the input!  Your double cab is absolutely GORGEOUS!

    Lori and I are getting REAL excited to see our baby in paint!

    Pat K
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    beige grey, right?

    Yes, beige gray.

    I thought you asking about bottom side color. I think JJ just swapped up the wording.

    Thanks for the pics – really helped me understand. Yeah – I think the “factory two-tone crisp” is the way to go. (Sorry about the extra taping work.) Is the primer as durable as the color paint? That’s my only concern… Seems like doing the total bottom in color comes under the heading of “over-restored”…

    No it’s not. We will use single stage paint color matched to Hanover sealer grey to do the center section for a factory crisp bottom side.

    We will build it if it comes.

    Pat K
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    Franz brought in a solid and fairly straight apron for you. It would required metal work and body work. 6925C1E0-F50E-421B-AFD0-667EC09A57AE21972718-18C3-4F32-A400-F96A0A41A944

    Found an excellent re-pop in stock at CIP1. We’ve used these before and they’re really nice. I think we should order you one Brent.

    https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D211%2D813%2D175%2DC

     

    We will build it if it comes.

    John Jones
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    I don’t like putting any filler aprons now days… it is sure to crack from the heat of the exhaust…  New aprons are nice!!

    She is flipped and getting the treatment!!! 😎

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    Hey.. I keep forgetting…  Do you want to keep this “Home Improvement”…. it is done nicely.. and looks functional.. ??  We know they could all use a brace there…8-)  Cut it out or leave it?

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    I got tooooooo much penetration on that rocker.. Pat is taking care of her now… 😎

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    Yber
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    I definitely agree – new/no filler is best on the apron!  Order away!

    Yeah – I put the throttle crank brace on right after I bought the bus and put a hot rod engine in and promptly bent the bracket.  So – best to just leave the brace as is – can’t hurt (even with a stock carb spring).  Besides – nobody would ever see it anyway.

    Thanks!

    dirtylawnchair
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    WOW – the dash looks pristine!! The M code tag is the one on the bulkhead behind the passenger seat, right? If so here are the only numbers on it: 14 5 425 025 177 UF 2313 424280 1300688 (1300688 is a good 1964 VIN – same as on the airbox tag)

     

    Thank you.   Its fun to decode the M-Plate. (https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/id.php)

    Great bus!  Your paint choice is perfect!  My bus is BG/SW.

    Just for conversation — Was the upper Beige Grey or was it Lotus White?  M-Code shows Lotus over Lotus (4242)

     

    John Jones
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    WOW – the dash looks pristine!! The M code tag is the one on the bulkhead behind the passenger seat, right? If so here are the only numbers on it: 14 5 425 025 177 UF 2313 424280 1300688 (1300688 is a good 1964 VIN – same as on the airbox tag)

    Thank you. Its fun to decode the M-Plate. (https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/id.php) Great bus! Your paint choice is perfect! My bus is BG/SW. Just for conversation — Was the upper Beige Grey or was it Lotus White? M-Code shows Lotus over Lotus (4242)

     

     

    HOLY FUCK… wait… could this VIN and Paint discrepancy help answer the un answered questions?  😎  😎  😎

    Franz
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    Wrong vin and m-code tag for the bus…Somebody swapped them. Maybe it was stolen?

    Its obviously a 66 not a 64.

    Yber
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    Yeah – the mystery continues.  Yes – she’s definitely a 66.  There is definitely something going on with this bus.  (Weird about the color code on the M plate – but not too weird given the 1964 vs 1966 mystery.)  I have worried about it having been stolen, but I’ve had it since 1973 and I know the woman I bought it from didn’t steal it.  I tried searching the VINs, but wasn’t able to find anything at all.

    BUT – I still think the key to the whole mystery is the factory (OG) safari windows.  I’m still trying to track down when they became illegal as windshields for export to the U.S.   Remember (at least those of us old enough), back in the day LOTS of people were buying VWs in Germany, driving them around Europe and then shipping them back to the U.S.  My guess is that safaris were no longer legal to import in 1966 – so THE FACTORY tagged it out as 1964.  The smoking gun here is the fact that the M code plate was NOT painted behind at the factory – it was painted over, removed and buffed off, and put back on (with the same screws, that they didn’t bother to buff off.)  I only discovered this little tidbit when I stripped the body down to bring to KCW.

    Having owned this since 1973, I know it’s never been repainted – besides I’m sure you guys can easily tell that having been all over the body and seen the original paint.  Here are pics of the M code plate on, and removed.

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    Yber
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    Thanks for the info on the bottom paint, Pat.

    “Factory crisp bottom” as you guys do it sounds like the just the ticket to me!  It’s gonna look sooooooo good!

    Yber
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    Dunno what happened to my last post, so I’ll try again.

    Definitely some slight of hand going on with our bus – and yes, she’s definitely 1966.  I had worried about it having been stolen, but I bought it in 1973 and I know the woman I bought it from didn’t steal it.  I tried searching the VINs, but wasn’t able to come up with anything at all.

    I still think the key to the mystery lies with the factory (OG) safari windows.  I’ve been trying to track down when they became illegal for export to the U.S.  If they were still legal in 1964, but not in 1966 that would explain it.  For those of us old enough to remember, back in the day LOTS of people were buying VWs in Germany, driving them around Europe, and then shipping them home.  A Westy would be a perfect choice for that!  So if my guess about the safaris is right, that would explain THE FACTORY tagging this out as 1964.

    I think the smoking gun lies with the M code tag itself.  Having owned her for so long, I know she’s never been repainted.  Besides, you guys have been all over the body and know it’s original.  Very weird that the M code shows Lotus White over Lotus White – but not that weird in light of the 1964 vs 1966 business (and the M code tag has a 1964 VIN).  When I was stripping her down to bring to KCW I took off the M code tag.  And guess what – it was NOT painted behind AT THE FACTORY!  They painted over the tag, then removed it and buffed it off.  Then then put it back on with the same screws – that they didn’t bother to buff off.  Here’s some pics of the M code tag installed, and taken off.L1020339L1020341L1020345

    Yber
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    Dunno what happened to my last post, so I’ll try again.

    Definitely some slight of hand going on with our bus – and yes, she’s definitely 1966.  I had worried about it having been stolen, but I bought it in 1973 and I know the woman I bought it from didn’t steal it.  I tried searching the VINs, but wasn’t able to come up with anything at all.

    I still think the key to the mystery lies with the factory (OG) safari windows.  I’ve been trying to track down when they became illegal for export to the U.S.  If they were still legal in 1964, but not in 1966 that would explain it.  For those of us old enough to remember, back in the day LOTS of people were buying VWs in Germany, driving them around Europe, and then shipping them home.  A Westy would be a perfect choice for that!  So if my guess about the safaris is right, that would explain THE FACTORY tagging this out as 1964.

    I think the smoking gun lies with the M code tag itself.  Having owned her for so long, I know she’s never been repainted.  Besides, you guys have been all over the body and know it’s original.  Very weird that the M code shows Lotus White over Lotus White – but not that weird in light of the 1964 vs 1966 business (the M code tag has a 1964 VIN).  When I was stripping her down to bring to KCW I took off the M code tag.  And guess what – it was NOT painted behind AT THE FACTORY!  They painted over the tag, then removed it and buffed it off.  Then then put it back on with the same screws – that they didn’t bother to buff off.  Here’s some pics of the M code tag installed, and taken off.

    L1020339L1020341L1020345

    Yber
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    Dunno what happened to my last post, so I’ll try again.

    Definitely some slight of hand going on with our bus – and yes, she’s definitely 1966.  I had worried about it having been stolen, but I bought it in 1973 and I know the woman I bought it from didn’t steal it.  I tried searching the VINs, but wasn’t able to come up with anything at all.

    I still think the key to the mystery lies with the factory (OG) safari windows.  I’ve been trying to track down when they became illegal for export to the U.S.  If they were still legal in 1964, but not in 1966 that would explain it.  For those of us old enough to remember, back in the day LOTS of people were buying VWs in Germany, driving them around Europe, and then shipping them home.  A Westy would be a perfect choice for that!  So if my guess about the safaris is right, that would explain THE FACTORY tagging this out as 1964.

    I think the smoking gun lies with the M code tag itself.  Having owned her for so long, I know she’s never been repainted.  Besides, you guys have been all over the body and know it’s original.  Very weird that the M code shows Lotus White over Lotus White – but not that weird in light of the 1964 vs 1966 business (the M code tag has a 1964 VIN).  When I was stripping her down to bring to KCW I took off the M code tag.  And guess what – it was NOT painted behind AT THE FACTORY!  They painted over the tag, then removed it and buffed it off.  Then then put it back on with the same screws – that they didn’t bother to buff off.  Here’s some pics of the M code tag installed, and taken off.

    L1020339L1020341L1020345

    Yber
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    Dunno what happened to my last post, so I’ll try again.

    Definitely some slight of hand going on with our bus – and yes, she’s definitely 1966.  I had worried about it having been stolen, but I bought it in 1973 and I know the woman I bought it from didn’t steal it.  I tried searching the VINs, but wasn’t able to come up with anything at all.

    I still think the key to the mystery lies with the factory (OG) safari windows.  I’ve been trying to track down when they became illegal for export to the U.S.  If they were still legal in 1964, but not in 1966 that would explain it.  For those of us old enough to remember, back in the day LOTS of people were buying VWs in Germany, driving them around Europe, and then shipping them home.  A Westy would be a perfect choice for that!  So if my guess about the safaris is right, that would explain THE FACTORY tagging this out as 1964.

    I think the smoking gun lies with the M code tag itself.  Having owned her for so long, I know she’s never been repainted.  Besides, you guys have been all over the body and know it’s original.  Very weird that the M code shows Lotus White over Lotus White – but not that weird in light of the 1964 vs 1966 business (the M code tag has a 1964 VIN).  When I was stripping her down to bring to KCW I took off the M code tag.  And guess what – it was NOT painted behind AT THE FACTORY!  They painted over the tag, then removed it and buffed it off.  Then then put it back on with the same screws – that they didn’t bother to buff off.  Here’s some pics of the M code tag installed, and taken off.

    L1020339L1020341L1020345

    Yber
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    Dunno what keeps happening to my last post, so I’ll try again.

    Definitely some slight of hand going on with our bus – and yes, she’s definitely 1966.  I had worried about it having been stolen, but I bought it in 1973 and I know the woman I bought it from didn’t steal it.  I tried searching the VINs, but wasn’t able to come up with anything at all.

    I still think the key to the mystery lies with the factory (OG) safari windows.  I’ve been trying to track down when they became illegal for export to the U.S.  If they were still legal in 1964, but not in 1966 that would explain it.  For those of us old enough to remember, back in the day LOTS of people were buying VWs in Germany, driving them around Europe, and then shipping them home.  A Westy would be a perfect choice for that!  So if my guess about the safaris is right, that would explain THE FACTORY tagging this out as 1964.

    I think the smoking gun lies with the M code tag itself.  Having owned her for so long, I know she’s never been repainted.  Besides, you guys have been all over the body and know it’s original.  Very weird that the M code shows Lotus White over Lotus White – but not that weird in light of the 1964 vs 1966 business (the M code tag has a 1964 VIN).  When I was stripping her down to bring to KCW I took off the M code tag.  And guess what – it was NOT painted behind AT THE FACTORY!  They painted over the tag, then removed it and buffed it off.  Then then put it back on with the same screws – that they didn’t bother to buff off.  Here’s some pics of the M code tag installed, and taken off.

    L1020339L1020341L1020345

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